Power Si vs Vitalize

Chunky Stool

Plant Destroyer
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I normally use ‘Vitalize’ for silica but can no longer find Mills nutrients in my area.

After reading lots of good reviews, I decided to try Power Si.

The first thing I noticed was cloudy swirl in a black bucket when PSi was added.
It sure looks like precipitation.

Hmm… maybe my water has calcium? (Shouldn’t matter)

So I mixed PSi with DISTILLED water in a black cup and this is what happened…
IMG_1501.jpegFor reference, adding Vitalize to plain tap water produces ZERO cloudiness.

Plants also respond to Vitalize WAY better than PoweSi.

Just my inflated 2 cents. :weedleaf: :poop: :weedleaf:
 
are those the monosilicic (sp?) versions of Silica? or am I thinking of a different brand?

I use the Bulletproof Si from Cutting Edge Solutions which is "supposed" to be the next best version of Si (or I just fell for the marketing)
Yes, both products should be monosilicic acid.
Both are pricey and I was expecting similar results.

Maybe I should contact the manufacturer of Power Si and see what they say.

My bottle hasn’t expired and has not been contaminated — at least not by me.
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I looked at Bulletproof Si by cutting edge and a quart only costs $20 compared to $100+ for Power Si or Vitalize.

Bulletproof is probably more like Pro-Tekt by Dyna-Gro.
 
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Since 08 I've tried nearly every silica brand out there. Osa28 (see my write up about osa28 on xxxfarmer) was by far THE best silica I've used to date. But was nearly 2-3x the price of others. I think it was discontinued a few yrs back. I currently use armor si, and have been for the past 5 yrs. I've never had any issues.


As far as the precipitation of the silica from the water. I've never seen any silica precipitate out in my uses. I've always added 1st before anything.

Is this a new bottle/batch or same bottle and now it's precipitation out of the water solution?
 
Since 08 I've tried nearly every silica brand out there. Osa28 (see my write up about osa28 on xxxfarmer) was by far THE best silica I've used to date. But was nearly 2-3x the price of others. I think it was discontinued a few yrs back. I currently use armor si, and have been for the past 5 yrs. I've never had any issues.


As far as the precipitation of the silica from the water. I've never seen any silica precipitate out in my uses. I've always added 1st before anything.

Is this a new bottle/batch or same bottle and now it's precipitation out of the water solution?
I bought the bottle of PowerSi about a year ago and have always followed directions on the bottle.

Not really sure how long it has been precipitating in water because most of my 5 gallon buckets are white. This is a new discovery and explains why results from PowerSi have been surprisingly unimpressive.

I must have gotten a bad batch or someone else would have noticed by now.

Regarding cheaper forms of silica, they are fine but don’t produce the same results as real monosilicic acid. I used ArmorSi by GH for a few years, then Pro-Tekt for at least 5 years after that (worked great to raise PH).
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Still got an unopened gallon of pro-tekt that I’ll probably never use.

Vitalize is that much better.

It’s not even close.
 
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I used Alchemist Stout MSA for a few years when I was doing hydro, no complaints...it was a good product I thought. I see it's went up 6 bucks since I last bought in 2023, now at $41 for a quart.

Alchemist Stout MSA Quart

This was my attempt to save a few bucks when everyone was on the Power Si kick over at the farm a few years back.
 
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Heard good things about powers but 2 more options I thought of suggesting or looking into, not trying to push any brand just giving more options to look into if you want ?

1st Def interested me in future

Dune
Contains:
7.53% monosilicic acid and 2.2% soluble silicon
Rate 0.5ml-2ml of dune to per gallon water
price compare Small bottle 250ml for 40 , 60 bucks for 500ml


  • Stable pH reduces polymerization
  • 2.2% Soluble Silicon (Si) (from orthosilicic acid)
  • Improves plant growth and nutrient uptake for greater yield, flavor, color, aroma, and enhances other quality traits
  • Cost-effective for both commercial and hobby growers
  • Low application rates and low application frequencies
  • 2-4 year shelf life; shelf life can be increased by adhering to proper storage practices”



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right now I use raw npk silica (45% silicon dioxide) or AGSIL , it works but it’s def not as quick absorb as some of the products listed above, not a big issue when your applying it whole cycle , shoot I won’t ever grow without silica exp coco . I’ll prolly try dune in future but right now I got 20lb left of raw npk silica ( love all raw’s products and this one is def good product , 2-4T per 50 gal of water). I can’t “recommend” dune till I use it but I def know with using raw npk silica it’s def a good product and I do recommend . I just also showed dune cause for people more hydro and foliar it would def be a great product and I think it’s def worthy also exp if you don’t have a product already . Price check around, makers price (raw npk) is a lot of time more costly directly vs wholesalers websites

 
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What they are / what form of silica
Product
Form / Active Silica Type
Key Additional Ingredients
Main Claims / Advantages
AgroMagen Si-TechUses mono-silicic acid (a plant-available acidic silica form) Also has calcium & boron; uses “chelation technology” for nutrient uptake Immediate availability; can be used both as soil drench or foliar spray; allows stronger cell walls & stress resistance; neutral to beneficial interactions with other nutrients.
Dune (Impello)Stabilized monosilicic (orthosilicic) acid — highly bioavailable silicic acid that’s stabilized so it doesn’t polymerize too fast. It’s mostly just that acid form; low application rate, aimed at high performance. Fast-acting, long lifespan, lower frequency/dose; strengthened cell walls; helps resist abiotic stress; good for performance and yield when used correctly.
RAW Silica (NPK Industries)“Biogenic silica,” about 45% silicon dioxide (SiO₂) in a flowable, water-compatible form; more traditional silica rather than fully immediately bioavailable silicic acid. It’s pH neutral, microbe-friendly; some portion provides immediate availability, some acts more slowly; useful across all growth/bloom stages. Reinforces stems / cell walls; good “insurance” silica; useful in systems wanting robust structure, support under stress; more gradual supply; less risk of acid-type products polymerizing or needing frequent re-application.

Pros vs Cons / Trade-offs
Here are things each product tends to do well, and some drawbacks:
Product
Pros
Cons / What to Watch for
AgroMagen Si-Tech• Instant bioavailability; foliar + soil application flexibility. • Adds calcium & boron, so may partly cover two needs. • Smaller volumes are cheaper entry ‒ good if trialing.• Because of its composition (mono-silicic acid etc.), it may need more frequent applications or fresh mixing; once the silicic acid polymerizes, loses activity. • Price per amount of available silica might be higher. • Additional Ca/B could interact with other nutrient inputs; need proper balancing. • Might be more sensitive to pH or storage/handling.
Dune• Very high performance; stabilized so less waste (less polymerization) • Low application rates, so over time might be more economical if used correctly. • Good for growers who want build strength, resistance, yield.• Higher upfront cost (price per unit tends to be steeper). • Requires careful dosing; overuse wastes money and may impact nutrient balance. • Might be overkill for simple gardening, or setups where silica needs are already met.
RAW Silica• Strong structural benefits; less risk of burn or adverse reaction; more “forgiving” because slower release. • Good for systems with soil or media that already contain some silica; helps build cumulative strength. • Lower hazard (chemical wise) compared to strong acids or need for stabilizers.• Not as immediately available as mono-silicic acid forms; some delay in plant uptake. • Might take longer to see visible effects. • You need larger quantities for same immediate effect. • If system requires very quick mitigation (e.g. stress, pests), might lag behind the acid products.

What Matters / What to Pick Based on Your Needs
To decide which is “best,” think about:
  1. How quickly you need results: If you want fast strength / dealing with stress (heat, drought, pests), then acid / stabilized acids (like Dune or Si-Tech) are better.
  2. Your growing medium & background silica levels: If soil/media is already rich in silica or you’ve been using silica, maybe RAW Silica gives enough. If low silica, acid forms help more.
  3. Scale & cost per treated volume: Even if Dune is more expensive per bottle, the low application rate might make it more cost-effective per gallon treated over time.
  4. Ease of use & risk: Acid/silicic acid products can degrade, polymerize, or require proper storage; biogenic silica is simpler.
  5. Compatibility with nutrients, pH, and microbes: RAW Silica is microbe-friendly; also, acid forms might affect pH; must ensure other nutrients (Ca, B etc) are balanced.
Rough Comparison / Which One Looks “Best” Where
  • If you are after peak performance, fast results, and are okay investing more + paying attention to dosing → Dune looks very strong
  • If you want a balance between speed, ease, and moderate cost → Si-Tech is good.
  • If you want more gradual, “insurance” style support (strong stems, less chance of breakdowns under stress), or growing in soil / living soil that already has some silica → RAW Silica is probably enough and safer lower-maintenance.
 
Here’s a comparison of PowerSi vs the other three (AgroMagen Si-Tech, Dune, RAW Silica) similar to before — pros/cons, what type of silica they use, and when each tends to perform best. This should help you decide which is right for your setup.




What is PowerSi / Forms and Key Features



From what I found:
  • PowerSi Original is a “proprietary concentrated silica biomix” with highly bioavailable silica, plus added micro- and macro-nutrients.
  • It claims to help with thicker stalks and stems; improved nutrient absorption; reducing salt buildup & dehydration; correcting elongation due to environmental stress; and supports root strength.
  • There is also a PowerSi Granular version: this is an extended-release, top-dress silica. It uses a stable matrix so silica stays in an “active state” longer (claimed up to ~30 days) in soil systems.
  • Dosage guidance: for the liquid/original version, something like ~0.5 mL per gallon for root applications; ~2-4 mL per gallon for foliar applications (varies by vendor)


So, PowerSi is aiming for both fast bioavailable form plus some buffering/stability (especially in granular version) and added nutrients to help uptake.




Comparing PowerSi vs AgroMagen Si-Tech, Dune, RAW Silica



Here is how PowerSi stacks up when compared with the other three:
Feature / Criterion
PowerSi
AgroMagen Si-Tech
Dune (Impello)
RAW Silica (NPK)
Form / BioavailabilityUses a stabilized, bioavailable form of silicic acid and in some versions an active matrix that keeps silica available. Has both liquid original and granular extended release forms. Mono-silicic acid (highly bioavailable); includes Ca & B; chelated to help uptake.Stabilized monosilicic / orthosilicic acid, optimized for minimal polymerization and maximum plant uptake.More traditional silica / biogenic silica; slower release; less immediately available but useful over time; good for building structural resilience.
Speed of EffectFairly fast; because of high bioavailability plus nutrients, you’ll see effects quicker (stem strength, stress tolerance etc.). Also, granular gives a slower release over time.Quite fast too; good dual soil/foliar flexibility; immediate uptake especially when under stress.Likely fastest per unit if using correctly, because its stabilized silicic acid that resists degradation and lets plants pull Si quickly.Slowest of the four; more cumulative effect over time rather than big immediate changes.
Stability / DurationLiquid original: needs careful mixing, first in water, etc.; tends to have issues with precipitation/clogging if not handled well per reports. Granular: more stable for soil top-dress, lasts longer (≈30 days). Needs relatively frequent reapplication when used in liquid or foliar; acid forms can degrade/polymerize.Very stable (if formulation is as claimed); less waste.High stability; less risk of overapplication; more forgiving schedule.
Added Nutrients / ExtrasPowerSi adds micro & macro nutrients; helps with nutrient uptake; also claims ability to reduce salt buildup. Has Ca & B in addition to silica; chelation etc helps nutrient interactions.Usually more “pure” Si focus; less extras beyond what’s needed for delivery/stabilization.Minimal extras; main effect is the silica itself.
Cost / Required DoseLikely high cost per bottle, but because dose rates are low / because there are extended release (granular) options, cost per treated volume may be moderate. However reports from users note precipitation issues/clogging can waste product. Similar tradeoffs; maybe lower cost than PowerSi depending on source; but frequent dosing needed.Likely more efficient per active SI delivered because of stabilization, lower polymerization loss.Probably lowest cost per SI delivered over long term, assuming you don’t need very fast correction.
Ease of Use and RisksSome risk of precipitation (film, clogs) if mixing order or water quality isn’t ideal. Liquid can affect pH; needs proper handling. Granular easier for soil. Also mixing first in clean water before nutrients is recommended. Similar risks for any acid or monosilicic acid form: polymerization, storage issues, pH drift etc.Fewer risks; less waste; but must ensure system uses forms that plants can actually uptake.Very forgiving; less risk, especially in soil or media systems; slower but stable.
Best Use CaseWhen you want both relatively fast effects and some longevity; when you can manage how you mix etc; good if you need correction plus continual benefits. Also when you want thick stems, better stress tolerance, likely in hydroponics or soil but with good control.Similar cases; when you want fast uptake, especially under stress, when foliar sprays or drench sprays are being used.For growers pushing performance, yield, especially with more expensive crops where margin for inefficiency is low.Best for soil growers, or lower intensity grows; good as baseline or buffer, or where you want structural strength more than lightning fast correction.

Pros & Cons of PowerSi (Compared)
Here are specific strengths and limitations of PowerSi, especially relative to the others.

Pros:

  • Fast visible improvements: stronger stems, quicker response in stress conditions.
  • Multifunctional: not just silica but also components that help with nutrient uptake, salt management etc.
  • Variety of forms: liquid for rapid application, granular for extended release in soil.
  • User reports show it helps with internode spacing, structural strength etc.

Cons:
  • Higher price: liquid versions are expensive; granular is pricey too.
  • Risk of precipitation / film / clogging in hydro / drip lines if not mixed properly. Several growers warn about that.
  • Because of added nutrients, risk of imbalance, especially if already using a full nutrient program.
  • Handling issues: must often add PowerSi first, in clean water, before other nutrients; storage; mixing etc.
When PowerSi Is a Better Choice vs When Another Might Be Better
Choose PowerSi if:
  • Your setup allows you to control mixing order well and avoid problems (you can water with clean water first, do foliar sprays etc)
  • You want both “corrective” and “maintenance” benefits — i.e. sometimes plants need a boost, and sometimes you want ongoing structural support
  • You are growing high-value plants where incremental improvements justify cost.
Maybe another is better if:
  • Cost is a big concern and you want to maximize silica per dollar long term: RAW Silica might be more economical.
  • You need ultra-fast, dependably high bioavailability and minimal polymerization/waste: Dune might edge out in that scenario.
  • You want something simpler, lower maintenance: the more gradual, forgiving silica like RAW or even conventional forms.
  • You already get a lot of silica (soil rich, previous amendments etc), and just need a small top-up; in that case, the simpler, cheaper forms suffice.
 
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nicely done with that comparison @BH

to be honest, I've used Si off and on for most of my growing years. I'm still on the fence if it actually does anything. I know the science behind it and what is "should" do for plants. But without a proper side x side to really test it's effectiveness, i'm still wondering.

this is the first Si product i've used that was based on MSA so maybe the results will be more evident. and at 12 bucks for a bottle that will last 1 grow, it seemed worth it.
 
nicely done with that comparison @BH

to be honest, I've used Si off and on for most of my growing years. I'm still on the fence if it actually does anything. I know the science behind it and what is "should" do for plants. But without a proper side x side to really test it's effectiveness, i'm still wondering.

this is the first Si product i've used that was based on MSA so maybe the results will be more evident. and at 12 bucks for a bottle that will last 1 grow, it seemed worth it.
Agreed but it sounds great on the books 📕 , but I do know raw or agsil16h makes my plants already like tree trunks and way stronger. I’m def not disappointed and been using ethier product every season for 5-10 years ( pick agsil16h if cheaper or raw )

For a good compare I did hear a good buddy of mine commericallly he trialed AGSIL16H vs POWERSI both foliar and drenches applies weekly . same clones ( I think he did like 2-5ish dif pheno’s in each room) but 100-200x de hps per-rooms, half room AGSIL , half powersi and ur talking 4 running rooms (flower rooms) . After 1 cycle he said powersi didn’t show any difference if anything was a bitch to keep stable with his fertilizer and cost def wasn’t showing off i ( at time I think he used jacks Peter). for a guy who got a free 1–2 gallons of power si and used it both foliar and drench and says this I’m not sure if I’m down for the cost difference. It’s just I’m also a dude who has to experience the trial myself to believe 😆

point is if I can use products like agsil16h or raw npk silica and it’s way less costly but also way less sensitive to mixture/microbes and stresses possible my question would be why. I’m gonnea talk with maker of dune and see if they will sponsor their product to me and I’ll do a agsil\raw npk vs dune compare? if they want to prove it I def can try and I won’t bs
 

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