Plant Issues with Winter/Spring 2024 Grow

[ExNavyInSTL]

I thought I would move my plant problems to their thread instead of "littering" in the breeder's thread.

I think those forums should be more celebratory.

Update on Ongoing Plant - Grease's Pieces

As you can see from this photo, I snipped off the dead leaves. I am impressed with the will to live on these top leaves.

I'm letting her continue while I germinate an AutoFlower seed to take over that pot.

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I Might Be Losing my Rhubarb S1 As Well

She's turning yellow on me, and there is some necrosis on a fan leaf.

I've stopped watering (feeding it) other than a circle of nutrients beyond the diameter of the fan leaves.

I have been giving a light foliar feed twice a week.

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MooMoo DooDoo is Causing Concern

She looks fine from the outside, but the new growth is getting lighter when you lift the fan leaves.

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The Only Truly Happy Camper - Nyx: Bringer of Sleep and Death

 

[notdezmond]

Are you foliar feeding with lights on? Not sure but by the looks of it some of that may be burning from water droplets on the plant.

 

[Frimpong]

I thought I would move my plant problems to their thread instead of "littering" in the breeder's thread.

I think those forums should be more celebratory.

Update on Ongoing Plant - Grease's Pieces

As you can see from this photo, I snipped off the dead leaves. I am impressed with the will to live on these top leaves.

I'm letting her continue while I germinate an AutoFlower seed to take over that pot.

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I Might Be Losing my Rhubarb S1 As Well

She's turning yellow on me, and there is some necrosis on a fan leaf.

I've stopped watering (feeding it) other than a circle of nutrients beyond the diameter of the fan leaves.

I have been giving a light foliar feed twice a week.


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MooMoo DooDoo is Causing Concern

She looks fine from the outside, but the new growth is getting lighter when you lift the fan leaves.

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The Only Truly Happy Camper - Nyx: Bringer of Sleep and Death

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It's really tough this time of year. I feel your pain and am going through the same thing. Careful w over watering. You got a few looking really good there though. Hope the others pull through for ya

 

[ExNavyInSTL]

Are you foliar feeding with lights on? Not sure but by the looks of it some of that may be burning from water droplets on the plant.

For now, I am foliar feeding with lights on. I know I have read that can be problematic, but I've never had an issue with leaf burning.

Plus, keep in mind that the lights are about 4 - 5 feet above the plants, and the PPFD is only around 300.

I have to think those war stories warning of foliar feeding with lights on are when the lights are cranked up and closer to the leaves to get the water-droplet light magnification burns.

Of course, I could be wrong in my logic.

 

[notdezmond]

I should have started with I don’t know shit, and also I grow in living soil so I’m not experienced in the salts game.

Got some good strains there, I hope you can figure it out. Good luck.
Citius altius fortius

 

[Chunky Stool]

Some of those plants look like they could use some food.
I started feeding my seedlings earlier w/good results -- especially when they get some silica to toughen them up.

 

[ExNavyInSTL]

I agree.

Yesterday, I used a 30ml syringe to inject nutrients strategically into the soil at various depths.

My goal with this technique was to get the nutrients to the roots without making the coco too saturated. That's because, at one point, there was a suspicion that over-watering may have been the problem by also causing a nutrient lockout.

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I just came down from the tent with new photos. I don't know if the prognosis is better, worse, or the same (pics to follow).

The leaf markings (tan) look like a lack of calcium is one of the issues. The yellowing must be nitrogen.

My gut tells me to mix my nutrients and dilute them to about 1.5 E.C. Then go ahead and add some Ca/Mg to the mix, but go no hotter than 1.8 E.C on the way back up.

I'll add my mono-silicic acid and some Mr. Fulvic.

Then, with about a pint or so of the solution, give it one last feeding within the diameter of the fan leaves.

Keep in mind, since they are in AutoPots, plenty of nutrients are a few inches away. The problem is that stress has likely retarded the root exploration, so she is still dependent on me for supplying her food.

My two other plants in the back are now feeding from the bottom. I say that because I have fed them in close to a week. Other than some light yellowing on the new leaves they are growing massive leaves and look healthy.

I just have to get this Rhubarb back to feeding.

If the plant is still suffering a lockout from overwatering, then this hail mary feeding will get dropped in the end zone.

Just a note to anyone new to reading my posts. I love all this, including dying plants. I don't want them to die, but any crisis forces me to learn how to deal with it in the future (if I can't save them now). At least that's the goal.

Some of those plants look like they could use some food.
I started feeding my seedlings earlier w/good results -- especially when they get some silica to toughen them up.

 

[ExNavyInSTL]

Day 28 - Rhubarb S1

These are the pictures for the comment I made just above.

 

[ExNavyInSTL]

Correction - the photos just above are from Day 24

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Day 26 - Rhubarb

I'm not sure what to think now.

My first remedy a few days ago was to feed it. Someone said it looked hungry. That did not improve things.

Yesterday, I acted like it was a nutrient lockout and flushed all of the coco with RO water.

That option may take a few days to bear fruit.

Other Notes: I am leaving this plant to a friend while I am away until the 21st. That might be the best remedy of all.

I'm including a "Group" photo to show that the other plants respond well to my nutrient mix.

All 3 plants, from Center to Left, are the same age.

 

[Gatorbackbob]

It's nearly impossible to overwater coco, you should be watering till runoff. Even fully saturated coco with no perlite will hold 30% oxygen. If you are using organic dry amendments then I can understand not producing runoff, as you would be essentially washing food out of the medium. Your plants look hungry for sure, should be feeding nutrients during every watering with coco as it is inert. I personally run straight coco with no perlite and I have occasionally run into some cultivars that don't like wet feet, alien og was a bad one with that, it's not at all common to find one like that. But yes your plants definitely look hungry, but also if you let the coco get too dry, or not getting enough runoff, then you will get a ph issue that will cause lockouts.

 

[ExNavyInSTL]

It's nearly impossible to overwater coco, you should be watering till runoff. Even fully saturated coco with no perlite will hold 30% oxygen.

I agree with you. I've never had an overwatering issue with coco.

If you are using organic dry amendments then I can understand not producing runoff, as you would be essentially washing food out of the medium.

These are in auto pots, so there is no watering to runoff. When I did a anti-lockout flush yesterday, I had to stand by with a small pump to catch the overflow.

Of course, the little sick one's roots are nowhere near the moisture/feed coming up through the bottom yet.

Your plants look hungry for sure, should be feeding nutrients during every watering with coco as it is inert.

I've treated for hunger already. That's why when she didn't respond to food, I thought maybe it was a lockout. I cleared out any salts that might be the culprit. If that was it all. Right now I am just troubleshooting.

I personally run straight coco with no perlite and I have occasionally run into some cultivars that don't like wet feet, alien og was a bad one with that, it's not at all common to find one like that. But yes your plants definitely look hungry, but also if you let the coco get too dry, or not getting enough runoff, then you will get a ph issue that will cause lockouts.

I'm a 100% salt guy. That's one of the main reasons I run AutoPots or SIP buckets is so that I don't have to feed every day. Of course, I have to hand water/feed in the beginning as their roots go out exploring to find the source of their nutrients.

I've been growing for more than 2 years now without a gap. This is definitely been my most troublesome grow.

My other two plants are doing great. They are feeding and watering on their own now and have been for more than a week now.

 

[Gatorbackbob]

They won't green up right away with food, it'll take time, are you keeping nutrients in the autopot reservoir, and are you using air domes? The res could be fluctuating temp, and causing ph swing, the one that looks good definitely has roots to the bottom dish

 

[ExNavyInSTL]

This worries me some, in that I am leaving these plants with my friend for 12 days. I've never traveled while having a garden.

Who knows what this thread will look like by the end of February?

They won't green up right away with food, it'll take time, are you keeping nutrients in the autopot reservoir, and are you using air domes? The res could be fluctuating temp, and causing ph swing, the one that looks good definitely has roots to the bottom dish

 

[Gatorbackbob]

I've left mine on several trips, usually just fill up dollar tree oil drain pans with about a gallon and a half of feed water for each pot and set the pot right into the water, and leave for 10 days they were thirsty but perfect. Soil grows I would use a water wick to keep them alive, as long as you can keep them fed you'll be good. I truly think the ones that don't look so good just need to eat. Sometimes if the floor is too cold I'll have some plants that will look similar to that so during the winter I put cardboard layers between the pot and floor to insulate. But yours just look like they need some food. Enjoy your trip!

 

[ExNavyInSTL]

I've left mine on several trips, usually just fill up dollar tree oil drain pans with about a gallon and a half of feed water for each pot and set the pot right into the water, and leave for 10 days they were thirsty but perfect. Soil grows I would use a water wick to keep them alive, as long as you can keep them fed you'll be good. I truly think the ones that don't look so good just need to eat. Sometimes if the floor is too cold I'll have some plants that will look similar to that so during the winter I put cardboard layers between the pot and floor to insulate. But yours just look like they need some food. Enjoy your trip!

Yeah, I am not worried about nutrients. I have 20 gallons to feed, and they are barely eating yet. So, that is not an issue.

I worry more about VPD. I have everything automated, but the humidifiers need a fillin'.

 

[ExNavyInSTL]

Day 27 - She Was Given Nutrients Again

It's hard to tell if there are any changes to the good.

I have to leave her in the hands of a plan sitter for 12 Days starting in the morning.

 

[ExNavyInSTL]

Back from Two Weeks
Spent Around the Daytona 500
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What a difference 2 weeks makes

My wife was in charge of the plants and did a great job.

 

[ExNavyInSTL]

Day 40 - After Haircut and some Fung Shui

 

[finedakine]

Back from Two Weeks
Spent Around the Daytona 500
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What a difference 2 weeks makes

My wife was in charge of the plants and did a great job.

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Wow she did a great job! Those are some happy lookin plants right there!

 

[Frosty78]

I'd leave the wife in charge of the plants more often then mate. Everything's perked up under her watch