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Amarok

bad mother chucker
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I don't think it's a flicker
I'm down a bit of a bird sound rabbithole, and the closest thing I've found so far is the Northern Flicker, but your bird sounds bigger.

Edit: Why the hell would you make a page or video titled "birds that sing at night" and not include the @#%$%#$@@ sounds? I've run into too damn many of those.
 
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DopeDaniel

Taste The Spectrum
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I'm down a bit of a bird sound rabbithole, and the closest thing I've found so far is the Northern Flicker, but your bird sounds bigger.

Edit: Why the hell would you make a page or video titled "birds that sing at night" and not include the @#%$%#$@@ sounds? I've run into too damn many of those.
The Merlin Bird ID app has been fun, but without my noise canceling headset I don't have good enough audio quality to differentiate the sounds and my phone's mic isn't sensitive enough to do the sound ID. Might actually be able to upload files to it, I should check that out.


Almost sounds like pigeon flight.
So I was talking to one of my more senior neighbors a couple years ago about the sound and they said something like "the love doves are back" but when I said something to them about it a few days later they looked at me kinda weird and said "ok." I was wondering why the noise seemed more prevalent in different directions and that it sounded like they were flying.

The Mourning Dove aka. Love Dove.

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In flight, the wings make a fluttery whistling sound that is hard to hear. The wing whistle is much louder and more noticeable upon take-off and landing

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Amarok

bad mother chucker
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The Mourning Dove
This is rather coincidental and fortuitous timing. I was leaving for a walk yesterday and heard that sound across the street. I looked and saw motion as the maker of the sound took flight. It flew behind a row of trees and I only got an obscured glimpse. I wasn't going to say anything until I saw your post, since I just saw a flash of pale brown, but after seeing that photo, I think we have a match.
I presume my water association was due to the fact I'm usually fishing when I'm outdoors, so most things I encounter are encountered near water. :)



I think I've figured out the crow issue as well. The returner that trusts me is currently sitting on eggs. The mate is the one that's still coming around, still very wary.

Another Nature note that amused me on my walks: all the hares have darkened and have their camouflage back except for one place. The bottom of their feet are still snow white. If they sit still they are fine, but if they move those feet might as well be glowing for how easy they are to see in the undergrowth.
 

DopeDaniel

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I wasn't going to say anything until I saw your post, since I just saw a flash of pale brown, but after seeing that photo, I think we have a match.
I think so too. I have seen/heard the same thing you described and am thinking there are certain physical and geographic features that amplify and direct the sound. Like dry vs. humid or a perfectly flat feflective surface (lake or calm river) bridges (thinking they do the mud nests), canyons.... I also didn't recognize this as seperate from the flicker and just thought of them as "sexy" flickers but now think that was my amature skills of observation.

It was really hard to give out the info and not lead y'all on and let my biased observations taint the results. Gonna keep hamering on this one, its only been 4 1/2 years lol.
You may be able to get a REALLY decent mic as a plug in for your phone. A buddy does paranormal research, and using cheap microphones doesn't really pay off. Have you looked into an external plug in option?
I know they are out there, even with the flexibility of the phone, often purpose built units are my preference.

The fancy Bluetooth headset I have is pretty good but the camera defaults back to the on board mic and I don't know if there is a way to switch that so I can record with the headset hardware?
 

Amarok

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I've got a set of headphones for hunting. They enhance ambient sound and cut out at higher dB to protect from gunfire. I don't often hunt so they mostly gather dust, but I'm thinking I should wear them out in the bush for a hike or two and see what it adds to the experience.

It was really hard to give out the info and not lead y'all on and let my biased observations
Given my lack of specific knowledge outside of a very small set, if you expect anything from me I'll probably require some leading.


I've been thinking about this lately. I only lived out in the country until I left home as a teen, and while I spent most of my childhood and teens outdoors, my attention was focused on stuff I could catch or shoot or had to be aware of. Things like songbirds and plants(other than berries and such) were outside my frame of interest. Then I lived in the city for decades and almost all of my rural time was spent fishing.

Now that I'm out here as an old fart, I have far more time to notice the details and become aware of my ignorance. It's fun to start filling the many holes in my knowledge. :)
 

Amarok

bad mother chucker
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The Mourning Dove
I was just out chatting with ol' Bob and he confirmed we have them here.

Watched a few big Vs of snow geese pass overhead while we chatted.
I always worry a little bit when hundreds of pounds of birds are passing a thousand feet overhead. All it takes is one heart failure or aneurysm and there's a high-speed feather-bomb hurtling toward me at terminal velocity.
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DopeDaniel

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I was just out chatting with ol' Bob and he confirmed we have them here.

Watched a few big Vs of snow geese pass overhead while we chatted.
I always worry a little bit when hundreds of pounds of birds are passing a thousand feet overhead. All it takes is one heart failure or aneurysm and there's a high-speed feather-bomb hurtling toward me at terminal velocity.
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I gotta think they have sharts too.
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belleswell

In Bloom
Birmingham Roller Pigeons and Mourning Doves.

We live in a rural area in the upper part of Michigan's lower peninsula. We have birds constantly
crashing into the windows. When the bird is unresponsive or disoriented to the point of not being
able to stand, we will pick the bird up and try to get it to grip one of our fingers. One can feel
the strength coming back into their grip as they come around. We will try to talk softly to it from
behind , slightly from one side and then the other paying close attention to the movement of the head.

What we are looking for is movement in both directions from the bird to let us know the neck is not broke.
All the while, softly stroking the bird with a finger along the grain of the feather. Head to tail. It
sometimes just takes a few minutes, but we have had them in hand for over a half hour before they finally flew
off. It's a great feeling to see them leave.

My wife has done this much more than I but it's wonderful to see them fly off. I call her the bird whisperer.

Coo, coo they said.


The sad thing about Mourning Doves is they have a short life span and seem to be on earth to feed the raptors, as Hawks and Eagles love them.

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Falling at terminal velocity was mentioned here. Here is a Birmingham Roller that does just that.

Birmingham Roller
This young pigeon showed up one day a couple years ago. We have bird feeders, but this guy would not go to them . We finally started putting out a little food and water for him as he looked like someones pet. There was a band around one of it's legs , and although it would let us get close, he would not let us handle him. After numerous pics enlarged of the band on his leg, and using online media, we tracked him back to his owner who lives about 3 miles away. This bird is used in competition for what is called rolling. 20 birds are released and scored by how many of them "roll in a dead fall". The ones that are falling look like they died mid air and free fall for quite a distance before pulling out of the dead fall. It almost looks like they are going to crash into the ground. At least 5 of the 20 have to do so in unison to be able to score points. I had never heard of it, but the owner was very happy when we finally got him into a live trap and he got to go home.





Lost Pigeon Gets To Go Home

We tracked him back to it's owner after about a week of him hanging out. After numerous close up camera shots of the band on his leg, we were able to piece together all but one number on the leg band. Social media and this number led us to it's owner who was very grateful to get him back. He had flown about 3 miles in a fog bank and storm that followed and ended up at our place.

It would not feed at the bird feeders, even though he watched other birds doing so. I think it would have died of thirst if we had not put out a small bowl of water for him,
even though the pond was 40 feet away and he watched other birds drinking from it. We finally put out a little dish of bird seed and a small bowl of water for him. I had never heard of Roller pigeons and the competitions they have with them, but a quick youtube search explained it for me. He would let us get close to him. Up to a couple feet , but would not let us touch him. The owner brought over a live trap and we finally tricked him into going inside of it with some food. So after a week away from his coop and companions, he finally got to go home. The guy who owns him is a retired State cop, and we had made plans to go fishing some day, but we've yet to do so. He's a very
nice guy and posting this has me thinking about giving him a call for some local lake fishing. Bluegills and Perch.

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Bullfrog

In Bloom
AFAIK, there is no hunting for them here, but it's allowed in the next province over.

I stopped trying to figure it out.
I think it's the same here, don't think my state allows it but some do. If I was starving it'd be a different story. Don't really enjoy the killing much either, always felt pity and sorrow afterwards. Think the feeling would be slightly different if I needed that meal.
 
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